Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:16 am
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Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:46 am
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Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:15 pm
Correct, and that big-wheeler that Tim and Trevor were on was ex-Chris Williams.sidecar bloke wrote:I seem to recall that when we first started racing with the CRMC in 2004 the late Tim Johnson road a big-wheeler with a Vincent engine with his brother Trevor in the chair.
Also don't forget the immaculate French-owned Vincent ridden by Michel Ledermann with Bernadette in the chair. They are regular campaigners in Belgium and they came over to Brands Hatch for the Race of the Year 2008.
Nick Cutmore also had a Vincent I believe which was for sale last year for £25K.
That's it my knowledge has expired!
If you want to speak Konigs - I'm an expert now!! I''m thinking of going on Mastermind - speciality Konigs 1966 - 2010.
Williams was/is famous for starting out in VMCC Racing with 'aunty Alice' a Panther 600 big-wheeler of all things...
Later on he had build a magnificient outfit called 'Basil Brough' a big JAP V-twin engined Brough Superiour with a 1920's Hughes TT sidecar attached.
After Tim's death the Vincent was bought by Mark Upham who resides in Austria, don't know if he still has it.
The Vincent that the Ledermann's campaign (so who's the owner? I tought they were...or is it Patrick Godet?) was originally of Chris Chant.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:05 pm
All them names and the only one I recognised was right at the end, Chris Chant.
Although I must say I love the name 'Basil Brough'
Although I must say I love the name 'Basil Brough'
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:26 pm
To make the story complete - Basil Brough was also bought by Mark Upham.
On this page you can see pics of the Vincent and of Basil Brough:
http://www.vintage-motorcycle.com/index ... en&site=13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Does anyone on the forum know any more about this Mark Upham?
He also bought the Brough Superior trademark name.
On this page you can see pics of the Vincent and of Basil Brough:
http://www.vintage-motorcycle.com/index ... en&site=13" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Does anyone on the forum know any more about this Mark Upham?
He also bought the Brough Superior trademark name.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:50 pm
nick, I found the article & put it in the Post classic section.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:53 pm
Which one? Micehl and Bernadette own a 'big wheeler' and also race a 'kneeler' which has a 'big' engine which I believe (may be wrong?) that Patrick Godet owns.sidecarracing wrote:The Vincent that the Ledermann's campaign (so who's the owner? I tought they were...or is it Patrick Godet?) was originally of Chris Chant.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:58 pm
The Chris Chant outfit I remember was a big wheeler, usually totally sideways when I was working in the commentary box at CRMC with Allan Robinson 
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:03 pm
Ah...the story continues...
Chris Chant raced two Vincents, a big wheeler and a kneeler.
I'm 100% sure that the kneeler that the Ledermann's now run is ex-Chris Chant, and yes it's got a whopping big engine in it...I believe 1230cc or something like that!
The big wheeler...I have a very strong feeling that this also changed hands from Chris Chant to the Ledermann's or Godet for that matter.
Chris Chant raced two Vincents, a big wheeler and a kneeler.
I'm 100% sure that the kneeler that the Ledermann's now run is ex-Chris Chant, and yes it's got a whopping big engine in it...I believe 1230cc or something like that!
The big wheeler...I have a very strong feeling that this also changed hands from Chris Chant to the Ledermann's or Godet for that matter.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 9:09 am
Nick weston was riding a big wheeled Vincent at the Vintage test day ay Mallory on Friday.
I beleive it to be The Johnsons old outfit, it certainly looks very similar.
If i can work out how to post some pictures i will later.
I beleive it to be The Johnsons old outfit, it certainly looks very similar.
If i can work out how to post some pictures i will later.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:54 pm
Grant, The Vincent that Nic Weston was riding at Mallory was Martin Quirke,s not the ex Johnson brothers. Sounded very good shame it had silincers on. The Chris Chant kneeler was sold to the Vincent man in Holland,the Fast Lady Vincent was racing in New Zealand a couple of years ago. Thanks for helping to loud the crashed outfit at Mallory yesterday.
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:52 pm
den etheridge wrote:Grant, The Vincent that Nic Weston was riding at Mallory was Martin Quirke,s not the ex Johnson brothers. Sounded very good shame it had silincers on. The Chris Chant kneeler was sold to the Vincent man in Holland,the Fast Lady Vincent was racing in New Zealand a couple of years ago. Thanks for helping to loud the crashed outfit at Mallory yesterday.
No probs with helping u load the outfit mate, i was glad to help.
The vincent is a bit different from when Martin raced it then
seem to remember lots of braided hoses everywhere and cone air filters.Great to see it being ridden again though...
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:46 pm
That was the Dave Mallows Vincent that raced with the CRMC a couple of years ago. Nicely turned out but did look a little at odds with the 'Classic' theme 
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:11 pm
Quick question - has Dave Mallows retired or on another bike?
Re: Vincent question
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:19 pm
I was talking to his passenger at the Telford show the other week, I got the distinct impression they'd jacked it in.